Grote’s Gripes: Boston vs New York Like Great Boxing Battles

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Boston vs New York: Have a nice trip, see you in the Fall.

NEW YORK, NY - There is no bigger rivalry between two sports cities in this country than between New York and Boston.  This has been going on since the days of Boston Red Sox star Babe Ruth being sold to the Yankees.  I have been on both sides of the rivalry having grown up in New York City but spending my college years in Boston.  I have always hated the Yankees so I have rooted for the Red Sox about as often as I have for the Mets.  Of course when the Mets play the Red Sox there is no love shown for Boston whatsoever.  Now it is the Bruins versus the Rangers and again I’m rooting for the Boston side because the Bruins always have been my hockey team going back to the days of Rick Middleton and Brad Park.

Boston does have a bit of an inferiority complex when it comes to most things outside of sports.  New York is the undisputed capital of cool and will remain so for the foreseeable future.  Brooklyn vs Brookline?  C’mon now, people don’t brag to their friends back home about moving to Brookline, for Christ’s sake.

In the sports world Beantown has more than held it’s own with a recent string of championships for all four major sports franchises over the past 10 years.  New York hasn’t had a basketball title in over four decades and it is coming up on twenty years since the Rangers hoisted the Stanley Cup.  Overall, New York leads Boston 52 – 34 in outright championships in the four major sports.  Here is the breakdown:

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Sox did blast Mets with Bay Cannon.

Yankees – 27
Giants (NFL) – 7
Rangers – 4
Islanders – 4
Giants (MLB) – 4
Mets – 2
Knicks – 2
Dodgers – 1
Jets – 1

Celtics – 17
Red Sox – 7
Bruins – 6
Patriots – 3
Braves – 1

Here is my list of Boston vs New York rivalries, though Mets vs. Red Sox doesn’t make the list because they just haven’t played enough, it has to be noted that they were involved in one of the greatest World Series of all-time.

Red Sox vs. Yankees - Not only have these teams been in the same division for over a century but they played in some of the most memorable games in baseball history: (Bucky Dent, Aaron Boone, Don Zimmer, Bloody Sock, etc). If this was a boxing match, it would be Dempsey vs. Tunney, an all-time classic.

Giants vs. Patriots - These teams have played two of the most memorable Super Bowls in history, so it shoots them right to the top of the list. The Giants have gotten the best of the Pats both times. In boxing this would be Clay vs. Liston; two beatings proved it was no fluke.

Celtics vs. Knicks - These teams renewed their playoff rivalry this year and like the Red Sox and Yankees have been in the same division forever. The one-sided nature of this rivalry makes this more of a Ray Robinson vs. Jake LaMotta match-up.

Bruins vs. Rangers - This current playoff series is the first between the two Garden inhabitants since 1973. But back in the 70’s this was a nasty affair which even carried over into the stands. Even though they play in different divisions now, the B’s and Broadway Blues always go after each other. Think Hagler vs. Hearns.

Bruins – Islanders - Back in the early ’80s the Islanders biggest competition in the east was the Boston Bruins.  These teams had some incredible series that the Islanders always came out on top, much to the disdain of myself and Cheesy Bruin.  These brawls were reminiscent of the Arturo Gatti vs. Micky Ward wars.

Patriots vs. Jets - This has been a one-sided affair for the past couple of decades. The Jets have had a couple of minutes of glory but overall it has been Tyson vs. Frazier.

Stay tuned tomorrow for a man who sings like Joe Frazier and fights like Marvis Frazier, Angry Ward.

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  • Marty Stein9er

    The Devils are considered a NY area team and they have 3 Cups and own the Bruins. Is that why you left them out?

    • Grote2Dmax

      They never played in NY. Always a NJ team in name and location.

      • MartyStein9er

        The Giants and the Jets were playing in the same parking lot for 30 years and they won their cups there. Its the same exact place, how do you count one and not the others???

        • buffalobilly84

          Da Bills are the only New York football team! How about our rivalry with the Patsies?!

        • Grote2Dmax

          Marty the teams are known as the New York Jets and New York Giants. The Devils are officially known as the New Jersey Devils therefore not New York.

          • http://meetthematts.com/ Meet The Matts

            We’re arguing about the Colorado Rockies?!

    • http://twitter.com/CheesyBruin Cheesy Bruin

      The B’s beat the Devils in the ’88 Conference Finals (Koharski Donuts). And a team that holds Stanley Cup celebrations in the parking lot of their arena cannot be taken too seriously or considered a NY team because of parade plans.

      • Devs Fan

        They are in Newark now, which is as much of a city as that little town called Boston. haha

  • jgclancy

    Where is Boston?

    • Grote2Dmax

      In New England.

      • AlexanderBorisDePfeffelJohnson

        For the love of God, please change that abomination’s name!

        • http://meetthematts.com/ Meet The Matts

          You guys named it, Your Excellency!

          • Sam’s-A-Fan

            I think he’s referring to Johnson, no?

        • jgclancy

          “Better than the Crappy Old England” works for me, Pfefferneusse.

  • Grote2Dmax

    I thought about bands because that is a fair fight.

    • http://meetthematts.com/ Meet The Matts

      We’ve got More Than A Feeling that the Rangers will prevail. Remember, the Mets lost the first two in ’86!

      • AngryWard

        It’s been such a Long Time, but that does sound vaguely familiar.

    • Tall Matt

      Zubin Mehta would have kicked Arthur Fielder’s ass from the Esplanade to Chestnut Hill.

  • Big Blue 56

    On paper it doesn’t look like much of a rivalry in football and baseball.
    Football its 8-3 NY
    Baseball its 29-7 NY

    • Grote2Dmax

      Remember it is 2 against 1 in both those sports so football is pretty close.

      • http://meetthematts.com/ Meet The Matts

        7-3 is Boston Close.

  • AngryWard

    I’m pretty sure that the Boston Strangler has the edge on Son of Sam.

    • Grote2Dmax

      New England clam chowder is much better than Manhattan clam chowder too.

      • jgclancy

        Clam chowder sucks either way.

  • http://meetthematts.com/ Meet The Matts

    Two names stand out, al-time, in this rivalry: Babe Ruth and Bill Buckner. Shame on you, Grote2DMax, for discounting the Mets/Sawx!

  • http://twitter.com/CheesyBruin Cheesy Bruin

    Mobsters? Whitey Bulger vs. John Gotti.

    USFL? Breakers vs. Generals

    Grote, I remember you leaving Angry Ward’s house mid-game disgusted over Pete Peeters performance in the ’83 Conference Finals against the Isles where he couldn’t stop a medicine ball from hitting the twine. Surprised you left out the O’Reilly/Gillies bouts over the years.
    Are we getting together for a Game 3 viewing somewhere tonight?
    Maybe we get Tikk and Angry Ward, too.

    • bosoxbruins04

      Bill O’Reilly vs Dennis Leary.

    • Grote2Dmax

      Game 3 is out for me. Have an art opening with the wife tonight so will be catching the end of the 2nd and 3rd period. Thursday up north might work for me.

  • Sam’s-A-Fan

    On the Knick’s behalf, although said without much in the way of sincerity: “I never went down Ray, you didn’t get me down.”

    • Grote2Dmax

      Exactly Sam – they have a lot of fight in them. Bernard King kept slugging away with 50 point efforts during some great early 80’s Celts series the Knicks lost.

  • Time Warp Tony

    Marvis slipped. I was there. And say what you want about Harry Frazee but last night he pointed he did win a World Series in the 5 years he owned the Sox.

    • Grote2Dmax

      I’m just wild about Harry.

  • http://twitter.com/CheesyBruin Cheesy Bruin

    ALL HAIL THE KING!!!!!!!!!!!
    I think I heard a feather drop inside MSG.

    • AngryWard

      Bruins are still waiting for a power play opportunity. That was as dominating a 2-1 win as I can remember.

      • http://twitter.com/CheesyBruin Cheesy Bruin

        Things certainly got chippy out there tonight. I was expecting Brent or Duane Sutter to appear.

    • Big Blue 56

      You can’t blame Lundquist you Masshole.

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